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@showlink - They do have propoganda, but USA has even more, you do not know how much of propoganda that is being manipulated by the USA and its media there.
@xLossage Propoganda - C has one of the world’s most brainwashed populations ever. Most resources in C are being pulled out of minority group lands anyway and at what cost to your environment which in turn affects the whole planet’s ecosystem? C is building roads in Africa to pull the resources out faster and how much does it cost to build a school in Africa - pittance. My mind has been made up not from media but having travelled extensively. Agree to disagree because we will never agree on C.
@showlink - The “Chinese” doesn’t. You have been obviously brainwashed by western propoganda. Go to the UK or Aljazeera for real news.
Money isn’t, but resources are. Most resources are from China now, such as steel.
Unlike USA, or other companies like Fair Trade, China pays the most for food.
Land from Africa shouldn’t be sold to Europe, USA for such cheap prices. China helped Africa build roads/schools and gave money to Africa in exchange for interest.
@xLossage Not necessarily. You need to weigh up all pros and cons. $ are the most important thing to Chinese who tend to ignore all other issues. Money doesn’t always trickle down in societies and there are social and environmental costs. Bottom line is our government should be representing the people. We do not want our land, housing etc to be sold off to foreign interests.
@showlink - It’s long term gain, since China offers a higher pay, meaning that Australia, the country, can gain more resources back by farming from China. It doesn’t mean they are giving food for free, it means they are getting resources. For example, they can get metal, minerals etc. which can help develop, build schools, universities, playgrounds, and expand Austraila’s economy.
Would you rather give your bacon sandwich for 50p, or 60p? Simple.
@xLossage What exactly are you talking when you say they were saving 4000 lives? I don’t agree with you that trading with China in its current form is a good idea. Short term gain.
@hipp6y - well, unlike many cheap farms, Australia produces quality food, that is why China is buying them at such an expensive price, both countries benefited.
Quality food can reduce bad health, and China needs quality food. Australia has a lot of them, so China just has to beats the highest bidder/buyer.
In USA, Europe, & China, there are lots of processed foods also, which is bad for you and should be banned. In Japan there is a lot too, but Japan has a lot more healthy stuff.
@xLossage exactly, and if most of australia’s food resources is bought by a chinese company, it’s more than likely it’s quality will drop. let’s not kid ourselves, they’re not buying out farms in a large, agriculturally rich country for their upper classes to get diary. it’s going to go industrial for maximum profit with minimum input, as usual. this might well turn into the same thing as in US.
@hipp6y - Yeah, USA is a rich country but the rise on processed food is rising, it is even cheaper than healthy foods. In USA, people who eat healthy food are considered “rich”. This is because processed food is so cheap and is bad for you.
@showlink - China didn’t gain anything from saving lives except that goodness was it’s own reward.
China was simply a higher bidder than other countries, which did increase profits for the Australian farmers, meaning that the Australia can get resources in exchange from the Chinese money. It is Australia’s choice whether to allow trading with China. I think it’s quite a good choice.
For example, you are selling jewls for $50 each, then someone else offers $60.
@xLossage i have to agree with showlink. one of the reasons americans have health issues is that raw food is mainly redistributed to food processing plants, which own the farmers’ crops. the effect is, processed food is much cheaper, so many poor people don’t feel the choice. also the large food companies have a history of lacking food safety resulting in serious poisoning cases. big food ‘producers’ are usually trouble. the smaller, the better quality.
Secondly, the interviewer has done a poor job in the second part of the feature by cutting off the guests numerous times while they were trying to answer her questions.
I see attitudes in Australia haven’t changed much in the last couple of decades. Good luck struggling in your sandbox while the rest of the world excels.
@xLossage Not in all cases. We have at the moment a Gov. who is selling off assets belonging to the public in order to make its books look good. Don’t know what you are talking about regarding 4,000 people China supposedly helped. China does nothing unless there is gain for themselves. Opium trade in 1800s has nothing to do with issue today.
In the future you will watch this food be shipped to China while you and your children starve. Short term loss or long term gain. You can’t nationalize the farm because you don’t have the army or navy to defend your shores.
Farmers just need to stand up to the middlemen. They get 18 cents per liter, and I pay 2 dollars. The farmers need to take a hit and turn off the tap for a week or two, that’ll make Coles and woolies wake up.
@showlink - It’s Australian’s choice whether to buy it or not.
China has also helped Australia in many cases, and other countries, like Iceland by saving over 4,000 citizens, a lot of people think they are “cheap”.
But if you look, many countries in the 1800s - 1950s had been trading a lot of addictive drugs (opium) to China which if you stop taking them you get sick/can die, and made a lot of cash from China.
Trading can be bad, only if it’s a scam. There’s nothing wrong with merchanting.
@showlink - They do have propoganda, but USA has even more, you do not know how much of propoganda that is being manipulated by the USA and its media there.
@xLossage Propoganda - C has one of the world’s most brainwashed populations ever. Most resources in C are being pulled out of minority group lands anyway and at what cost to your environment which in turn affects the whole planet’s ecosystem? C is building roads in Africa to pull the resources out faster and how much does it cost to build a school in Africa - pittance. My mind has been made up not from media but having travelled extensively. Agree to disagree because we will never agree on C.
@showlink - Sorry for saying brainwashed by western propoganda, I take that back, I just came back from work.
@showlink - The “Chinese” doesn’t. You have been obviously brainwashed by western propoganda. Go to the UK or Aljazeera for real news.
Money isn’t, but resources are. Most resources are from China now, such as steel.
Unlike USA, or other companies like Fair Trade, China pays the most for food.
Land from Africa shouldn’t be sold to Europe, USA for such cheap prices. China helped Africa build roads/schools and gave money to Africa in exchange for interest.
@xLossage Not necessarily. You need to weigh up all pros and cons. $ are the most important thing to Chinese who tend to ignore all other issues. Money doesn’t always trickle down in societies and there are social and environmental costs. Bottom line is our government should be representing the people. We do not want our land, housing etc to be sold off to foreign interests.
@showlink - I know. But selling it for 50p is ridiculous when you can get more. Australia is benefiting this too.
@xLossage 50p. Money isn’t everything.
@showlink - It’s long term gain, since China offers a higher pay, meaning that Australia, the country, can gain more resources back by farming from China. It doesn’t mean they are giving food for free, it means they are getting resources. For example, they can get metal, minerals etc. which can help develop, build schools, universities, playgrounds, and expand Austraila’s economy.
Would you rather give your bacon sandwich for 50p, or 60p? Simple.
@xLossage What exactly are you talking when you say they were saving 4000 lives? I don’t agree with you that trading with China in its current form is a good idea. Short term gain.
@awesome220 It’s called free speech.
@fishingwithrod 10 minutes is hardly the time to cover this kind of topic anyway, i think they should drop the interview part altogether.
@hipp6y - well, unlike many cheap farms, Australia produces quality food, that is why China is buying them at such an expensive price, both countries benefited.
Quality food can reduce bad health, and China needs quality food. Australia has a lot of them, so China just has to beats the highest bidder/buyer.
In USA, Europe, & China, there are lots of processed foods also, which is bad for you and should be banned. In Japan there is a lot too, but Japan has a lot more healthy stuff.
@xLossage exactly, and if most of australia’s food resources is bought by a chinese company, it’s more than likely it’s quality will drop. let’s not kid ourselves, they’re not buying out farms in a large, agriculturally rich country for their upper classes to get diary. it’s going to go industrial for maximum profit with minimum input, as usual. this might well turn into the same thing as in US.
@hipp6y - Yeah, USA is a rich country but the rise on processed food is rising, it is even cheaper than healthy foods. In USA, people who eat healthy food are considered “rich”. This is because processed food is so cheap and is bad for you.
@showlink - China didn’t gain anything from saving lives except that goodness was it’s own reward.
China was simply a higher bidder than other countries, which did increase profits for the Australian farmers, meaning that the Australia can get resources in exchange from the Chinese money. It is Australia’s choice whether to allow trading with China. I think it’s quite a good choice.
For example, you are selling jewls for $50 each, then someone else offers $60.
@xLossage i have to agree with showlink. one of the reasons americans have health issues is that raw food is mainly redistributed to food processing plants, which own the farmers’ crops. the effect is, processed food is much cheaper, so many poor people don’t feel the choice. also the large food companies have a history of lacking food safety resulting in serious poisoning cases. big food ‘producers’ are usually trouble. the smaller, the better quality.
why aren’t comments banned?
Secondly, the interviewer has done a poor job in the second part of the feature by cutting off the guests numerous times while they were trying to answer her questions.
“I’m an Australian not a Chinaman.”
I see attitudes in Australia haven’t changed much in the last couple of decades. Good luck struggling in your sandbox while the rest of the world excels.
@xLossage Not in all cases. We have at the moment a Gov. who is selling off assets belonging to the public in order to make its books look good. Don’t know what you are talking about regarding 4,000 people China supposedly helped. China does nothing unless there is gain for themselves. Opium trade in 1800s has nothing to do with issue today.
Australians will be labor and the Chinese management. I hope you like your new lives.
19:30 to 20:42 says it all.
In the future you will watch this food be shipped to China while you and your children starve. Short term loss or long term gain. You can’t nationalize the farm because you don’t have the army or navy to defend your shores.
Farmers just need to stand up to the middlemen. They get 18 cents per liter, and I pay 2 dollars. The farmers need to take a hit and turn off the tap for a week or two, that’ll make Coles and woolies wake up.
@showlink - It’s Australian’s choice whether to buy it or not.
China has also helped Australia in many cases, and other countries, like Iceland by saving over 4,000 citizens, a lot of people think they are “cheap”.
But if you look, many countries in the 1800s - 1950s had been trading a lot of addictive drugs (opium) to China which if you stop taking them you get sick/can die, and made a lot of cash from China.
Trading can be bad, only if it’s a scam. There’s nothing wrong with merchanting.